Maritime record MWX2230 - Valentine Tank
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Lost while carrying out trials during WWII. 06-JUN-1985 Valentine tank located in 50 40.25N 001 54.01W. (1)
… Upright and virtually complete, albeit very rusty...part of a flotilla of Valentines which, in 1942, were fitted experimentally with canvas screens in order to make them float in the sea. Much of the development of this secret weapon took place in Poole Bay... (2)
Recovered objects on droit list include shaving brush, razor, toothbrush, wrench, radio telephone and makers plate. (Droit A/093).(5)
Recovered items on droit list include a radiator manifold, a piece of hydraulic piping, and a microphone, found in Poole Bay. (Droit A/1125).(5)
Recorded by the Poole Bay Archaeological Research Group. (6)
Wreck Site and Archaeological Remains:
Horizontal Datum: OSGB (1)(8)
Vertical Datum: 116 (1)(8)
Method of Fix: Decca (1)(8)
Wreck recorded in position 50 40.417N 001 54.017W (OSGB), or 50 40.451N 001 54.099W (WGS 84), in 9m general depth. (8)
06-JUN-1985: Valentine tank located in 50 40.25N 001 54.01W. (1)(8)
This appears most likely to be the wreck listed as No.2 under the heading of No.272, "Valentine Tanks", position given as 50 40.23N 001 54.75W, although this cannot at present be confirmed. (4)
. . . Upright and virtually complete, albeit very rusty . . . The tanks in Poole Bay all lie at around 9 metres . . . situated in flat, sandy terrain and consequently form havens for many fish, conger eels, crabs and lobsters . . . (2)(4)(6)
The following droits were not attributed to any particular Valentine tank, and therefore are cross-referenced between them all:
Recovered objects on droit list include shaving brush, razor, toothbrush, wrench, radio telephone and maker's plate. (Droit A/093). (5)
Recovered items on droit list include a radiator manifold, a piece of hydraulic piping, and a microphone, found in Poole Bay. (Droit A/1125). (5)
A door catch recovered in Poole Bay from an unspecified Valentine tank. (Droit A/2450). (5)
The tanks now sit upright on the seabed and were complete up to 1987 when the Royal Navy blew five of them up, the remaining two are still complete. (7)
Charted as foul, and seen to be located approximately 2 miles east of the entrance to Poole harbour. (9)
. . . Part of a flotilla of Valentines which, in 1942, were fitted experimentally with canvas screens in order to make them float in the sea. Much of the development of this secret weapon took place in Poole Bay and it is not surprising that a few Valentines succumbed to rough conditions and sank. Although the development of the screen system (which could be raised or lowered pneumatically) was carried out on the Valentines, it was used eventually during the Normandy landings on Sherman tanks, a much heavier-bodied vehicle . . . The Valentines were powered by a duplex drive system which enabled the engines to turn large propellers mounted at the rear when the tanks were in the water. (2)(4)(6)
A Vickers tank offered to the War Ministry on 14-FEB-1939, therefore called Valentine, started operation during 1940. During the course of the war it was developed into many special purpose vehicles, one of these being the amphibious 'DD' Duplex Drive. Seven were lost during the last major exercise before D-Day with the loss of six men. (7)
Crew Lost: 6 overall, from which tank or tanks at present unknown (7)
Date of Loss Qualifier: Actual date of loss
<1> United Kingdom Hydrographic Office, 1992, Hydrographic Office wreck index (Index). SWX4837.
<2> Hinchcliffe, J and V, 1990, Dive Dorset: a diver guide (2nd Edition), Wreck No.197, p161-3 (Monograph). SWX5640.
<3> 1979, Diver [incorporating Underwater World] 1979, No. 6 June., p24 (Article in serial). SWX6633.
<4> Hinchcliffe, J and V, 1999, Dive Dorset: a diver guide (3rd Edition), Wreck 272, p190-191 (Monograph). SWX1.
<5> 2001, Maritime and Coastguard Agency: Receiver of Wreck Amnesty (Index). SWX4542.
<6> Hinchcliffe, J and V, 1984, Dive Dorset: a diver guide (1st Edition), No 197, 161-163 (Monograph). SWX1714.
<7> Shovlar, S, 1996, Dorset Shipwrecks, A comprehensive guide to the shipwrecks of Purbeck and Poole Bay. , 202-205 (Monograph). SWX8036.
<8> United Kingdom Hydrographic Office, Wreck report, 19531 (Monograph). SDO20514.
<9> SeaZone Hydrospatial, Digital marine geographic information derived from SeaZone Hydrospatial (Digital archive). SDO20540.
<10> Le Pard, G, 1995-2003, Dorset Coast Forum Maritime Archaeological Database (Digital archive). SWX8707.
<11> National Record of the Historic Environment, 832536 (Digital archive). SDO14739.
Sources/Archives (11)
- <1> SWX4837 Index: United Kingdom Hydrographic Office. 1992. Hydrographic Office wreck index.
- <2> SWX5640 Monograph: Hinchcliffe, J and V. 1990. Dive Dorset: a diver guide (2nd Edition). Wreck No.197, p161-3.
- <3> SWX6633 Article in serial: 1979. Diver [incorporating Underwater World] 1979, No. 6 June.. Vol 24. p24.
- <4> SWX1 Monograph: Hinchcliffe, J and V. 1999. Dive Dorset: a diver guide (3rd Edition). 3rd Edition. Wreck 272, p190-191.
- <5> SWX4542 Index: 2001. Maritime and Coastguard Agency: Receiver of Wreck Amnesty.
- <6> SWX1714 Monograph: Hinchcliffe, J and V. 1984. Dive Dorset: a diver guide (1st Edition). No 197, 161-163.
- <7> SWX8036 Monograph: Shovlar, S. 1996. Dorset Shipwrecks, A comprehensive guide to the shipwrecks of Purbeck and Poole Bay. . 202-205.
- <8> SDO20514 Monograph: United Kingdom Hydrographic Office. Wreck report. 19531.
- <9> SDO20540 Digital archive: SeaZone Hydrospatial. Digital marine geographic information derived from SeaZone Hydrospatial.
- <10> SWX8707 Digital archive: Le Pard, G. 1995-2003. Dorset Coast Forum Maritime Archaeological Database.
- <11> SDO14739 Digital archive: National Record of the Historic Environment. 832536.
Finds (0)
Related Monuments/Buildings (1)
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Location
Grid reference | SZ 07046 86064 (point) |
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Map sheet | SZ08NE |
Protected Status/Designation
- None recorded
Other Statuses/References
- Legacy UID: Dorset Sites and Monuments Record: 9 000 0917
- Legacy UID: National Monuments Record: SZ 08 NE 6
- Legacy UID: National Record of the Historic Environment: 832536
Record last edited
Apr 5 2024 8:35AM